Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)

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Originally Posted by That Guy

the problem is you kept using the term bpa, but your definition of bpa is closer to needs based drafting than an actual bpa strategy. it makes things really confusing, especially when mentioning that GMs use a mix gets met with "no, you always use bpa, while accounting for team needs, which is totally bpa."....

matt millen used bpa and kept taking skill players in detroit and it worked out horribly for him (he/the lions may also just be bad at talent evaluation). green bay used it to trade up and steal rogers, which worked out great for them. new york used it in the 2000's when they drafted DL guys they had no place for... turns out you really can't ever have too many pass rushers.

We have different views of BPA and drafting and my view of BPA isn't needs based.

Needs based drafting means you can potentially pass on higher rated/graded prospect to draft a player that fits a need; in the manner punch it in outlined.

That is nothing like how I think a GM with a BPA would approach a draft. A BPA GM would always take the higher rated prospect. Needs based, as outlined by punch the higher rated prospect may be passed over in favor of addressing a need.

Another and really the key area where we disagree is I don't think GMs that are BPA advocates ignore their own team and I think they have longer focus then a 1 year snapshot of their team. So when a GM espouses a BPA philosophy its not gonna result in drafting 7 WRs or 7 QBs. In my view they're gonna ask themselves is this prospect the BPA on my team?
For example the Vikings when they had Chester Taylor, he was a 1,000 yard RB but Adrian Peterson was still a better prospect. Or when it was rumored that Scott would have taken Gurley even though we had Alfred.

I have no idea what Matt Millen's draft philosophy was; all I know is he wasn't good at drafting players regardless of his strategy.

And when it comes to pass rushers I think any GM regardless of BPA or need based will agree that you can never have enough. And depending on scheme you could potentially have anywhere from 4-7 positions where you could have a pass rusher from DL to LB to DBs.

To each there own, when I look at drafting history for GM's that I know espouse BPA (Scott, Casserly, Wolf, Thompson,Schneider) I think it bears out that they take into account whether the BPA prospect is also the BPA on their own team.