Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes?

[Big C]

here are some players that should either restructure or be cut

matt bowen- the man just sucks now, his cap number is too huge for a crappy backup

renaldo wynn- he has a big cap number, but i think he would be willing to restructure, he seems like a team guy

phillip daniels- i also think he would consider restructuring, at this point in his career, he has to realize that he doesnt have much of a chance to get as much playing time on a competing team anywhere but here

brunell- i hope we can restructure his contract some, assuming the reports that said he already did are false. we do not cut him, just try and restructure, if he doesnnt then oh well

ramsey-trade him, simple as that. an expensive backup who has no future here. i understand that a backup is needed for the QB, but by next year campbell should atleast be a solid backup

raymer- cut/restructure. either works for me

hall-if we can get novak back, then cut hall. if we cant get novak, then nothin we can do but keep him

noble-cut if he doesnt retire, and try and bring him back as a coach, since that is something the coaching staff has talked about

these are small changes that would free up a lot of space, without changing a lot to the team.

[wolfeskins]

#56fanatic
you have a somewhat valid arguement , the skins could have done a little bit better job of the way they handled some of thier draft picks but your arguement concerning player turnover in washington is not so valid. the skins have had constant turnover in coaching staffs, with each new staff comes a new offensinsive/defensive scheme and with each new scheme comes new players to fit those schemes. the new coaches tell mr. snyder who they want and snyder delivers. the same has been true with gibbs, he will get rid of a player if that player is not a good REDSKIN, also gibbs will tell snyder of a REDSKIN he would like to keep or of a potential REDSKIN he would like to get. the biggest difference since gibbs has been here is he will not allow snyder to OVERPAY for the players he wants to keep or get. the one exception has been brunell but gibb wanted , more than anything, a good ,solid, veteran qb.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

As for other potential 2006 moves I see:

Cuts/Trades:
Ramsey
Noble
Hall
Harris
Bowen
Patten
Raymer
Thrash

Restructures:
Brunell
Jansen
Thomas

(ie same guys who restructured last year)

The only guy on this list that I was somewhat surprised by was Patten. I thought we were pretty happy with him. Why do you think he is gone? What's the hit for cutting him next year pre-June 1/post June 1?

Also, to add something to my super long post - Several months ago Canuck criticized the FO for (as he references here) backing themselves into a corner/mishandling the Samuels, Arrington and Coles situations. I think his analysis of those three transactions was pretty damn good and a fair critique of the FO. Does anyone have the link to that post?

However, as I think I have made clear, I believe that Gibbs is instituting a sea change in the way the front office, and Danny himself, handle the business of aquirering and retaining talent. In terms of FA, I hope this next offseason is just as quietly productive as our past.

[wolfeskins]

i'd keep thrash, he's a good special teams player and a decent 3rd wr.

[wolfeskins]

i'm more worried about greg williams leaving than i am about any player. there's already rumors of him going to the rams.

[Big C]

williams wont go anywhere. he already totally controlls the defense, and is the heir apparent to gibbs, plus he is getting paid like a head coach.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Big C

williams wont go anywhere. he already totally controlls the defense, and is the heir apparent to gibbs, plus he is getting paid like a head coach.

I don't know about that. While he's getting paid like a head coach, I think Williams might have a tough time passing up a head coaching offer. There should be a lot of decent teams looking for head coaches next season.

[Luxorreb]

I think Williams will be here atleast 1 more year. Here is his best chance to win playoff games. Also if Gibbs/ Williams were to win the whole deal, Williams would be a guaranteed Washington hero and the next head coach. Gibbs won't be here forever, but I think we'll see him for atleast 1 more year. Hopefully Greg can wait. He will have the chance this offseason to get several headcoaching jobs, but truthfully his defense has slipped this year dramatically. Tiki Barber, Priest Holmes and Tatum Bell made us look like a bush league defense. Not to mention Joey Porter's long catch, LT's OT run and Chris Simms (not his dad) throwing on us all damn day!!! Oh and how about Alstott diving over twice?(perhaps once?) I hope we can keep Williams atleast another year and get him some DL this offseason.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'm more worried about greg williams leaving than i am about any player. there's already rumors of him going to the rams.

There is an entire thread dedicated to this (if anyone is interested):
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9490

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'm more worried about greg williams leaving than i am about any player. there's already rumors of him going to the rams.

Honestly, Wolf I think there will be rumors every year about Williams and Gibbs for that matter go elsewhere.

But wories me more than Williams leaving is him taking all of his assistants with him. Even if he leaves, if we can keep Blache, Lindsay we won't be too far off.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Honestly, Wolf I think there will be rumors every year about Williams and Gibbs for that matter go elsewhere.

the main reason that the rams rumor concerns me is that i read something about greg williams growing up there (or something to that affect ) basically the story was saying that greg williams going to coach the rams was a definate possibility, more so than any other team. i was also wathing ESPN the other night and they were listing all the possible head coaching candidates for next season and greg williams was at the top of the list but to make things worse , they kept mentioning the rams as the team that would really like to get greg williams.