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Old 05-07-2007, 10:22 AM   #1
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The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:22 AM   #2
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The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch.
I have no problem saying I am 100% right about believing in Jesus and the Holy Bible. There is no gray area and other way to Heaven but by Jesus. God provided us with His Word and that is the Holy Bible. If you or anyone believes different I believe you and they would be 100% wrong.

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6
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You may not believe and clearly many folks don't believe but the evidence I've seen in my small life trumps people opinions.

I'm not wrong to say I am 100% right. I'm a faithful and humble follower of Jesus the Christ.

I never argue about my religion or try to beat people in the head with Jesus. Never works and Jesus gets bruised. I just believe and share my faith and tesitmony.

Like I said above those folks are not teaching what is taught in the Bible.

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Old 05-07-2007, 12:06 PM   #3
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I have no problem saying I am 100% right about believing in Jesus and the Holy Bible. There is no gray area and other way to Heaven but by Jesus. God provided us with His Word and that is the Holy Bible. If you or anyone believes different I believe you and they would be 100% wrong.

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6


You may not believe and clearly many folks don't believe but the evidence I've seen in my small life trumps people opinions.

I'm not wrong to say I am 100% right. I'm a faithful and humble follower of Jesus the Christ.

I never argue about my religion or try to beat people in the head with Jesus. Never works and Jesus gets bruised. I just believe and share my faith and tesitmony.

Like I said above those folks are not teaching what is taught in the Bible.

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By saying that someone is 100% wrong for not beleiving the way you do is beating us with your ideas. It is a aggresive statement.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:44 PM   #4
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Re: Jesus Camp:

SBF, what would you say about all of the bible verses and other gospels that were omitted by Constantine and the Council of Nicaea? You understand that there was a bit of 'picking and choosing' with God's Word by human beings, right?
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:53 PM   #5
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SBF, what would you say about all of the bible verses and other gospels that were omitted by Constantine and the Council of Nicaea? You understand that there was a bit of 'picking and choosing' with God's Word by human beings, right?
The Bible, and the concept of the Holy Trinity are obviously loaded with area's that spur Hot debate. It is the ultimate catch-22, and has been that way for millenia. That won't change any time soon. It comes down to faith. Do I, or do I not, see enough evidence to believe? For me, the interesting part is NOBODY knows for sure the validity of belief, or the lack thereof until it's to late to repair, if you are wrong.
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SBF, what would you say about all of the bible verses and other gospels that were omitted by Constantine and the Council of Nicaea? You understand that there was a bit of 'picking and choosing' with God's Word by human beings, right?
In attempting to accomplish a complex task, have you ever worked with a group of people that, although each sincerely wanted a good outcome, bickered constantly, fought over how best to accomplish the task, was forced to make concessions and compromises on how best to accomplish the task and then, when all was said and done, looked at the final product and said "Wow- that's amazing". I have.

Inspiration can come individually or corparately, easily or through contentious creation, and it is the product of the inspiration rather than its process that should be judged. (The U.S. Constitution leaps to mind as an "inspired document" contentiously created through the debate and compromise of many gifted individuals).

The fact that Christians reached the ultimate expression of their collective wisdom through debate, contention and concession rather than by accepting some volume magically handed down by an anthropormic ghost, to me, makes it more relevant than not.

Many point to the very human way in which Christianity developed through the ages as the basis for disbelieving its tenets. I suggest to you that it is the very humanity of Christianity that makes it an appropriate vehicle for those who seek God.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:32 PM   #7
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SBF, what would you say about all of the bible verses and other gospels that were omitted by Constantine and the Council of Nicaea? You understand that there was a bit of 'picking and choosing' with God's Word by human beings, right?
Utter nonesense, the fact is people like to say that man kind is responsible for the bible not God, the fact is holy men of old spoke as the holy spirit moved them. Not only has God written the bible he has also protected it, the King James bible is the closest thing we have in the english translation to the original script, and all this can, and has been tested throughout the centuries, the bible has stood the test of time. Now there are many spin offs of the original context but they all can be proven through comparison on authenticity. As seen when they discovered some of the dead seas scrolls which where almost identical to the translation we have today.

Has man kind done everything they can to change God's word to suit thier Sin's? Yes! But they can be easily checked and refuited with the Greek and Hebrew text's which exept for a few minor errors in translation which most people who truly study the bible are aware of it is right on the money with century old text's.

Rest assured God is fully capable of protecting his word against mankind, now if mankind wants to run to a different truth other than the bible or take measures to distorte the bible that's thier perogative, but they also have to answer for that as well.


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Not only has God written the bible he has also protected it, the King James bible is the closest thing we have in the english translation to the original script, and all this can, and has been tested throughout the centuries, the bible has stood the test of time. Now there are many spin offs of the original context but they all can be proven through comparison on authenticity. As seen when they discovered some of the dead seas scrolls which where almost identical to the translation we have today.
Not to be picky here, but I believe the New American Standard Bible is the most literal english translation. It's difficult to read though. It doesn't flow very well. I personally enjoy reading The Message Bible or the New Living Translation.
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By saying that someone is 100% wrong for not beleiving the way you do is beating us with your ideas. It is a aggresive statement.
You gotta be kidding me right? Not sure I roll with SBF totally on what he said but nowhere was it aggressive.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:48 PM   #10
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You gotta be kidding me right? Not sure I roll with SBF totally on what he said but nowhere was it aggressive.
Aggressive might not be the best choice of words, but I understand what he's saying.
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God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:12 AM   #12
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yeah dude...can you pass that bong?
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I have no problem saying I am 100% right about believing in Jesus and the Holy Bible. There is no gray area and other way to Heaven but by Jesus. God provided us with His Word and that is the Holy Bible. If you or anyone believes different I believe you and they would be 100% wrong.

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6


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I'm not wrong to say I am 100% right. I'm a faithful and humble follower of Jesus the Christ.

I never argue about my religion or try to beat people in the head with Jesus. Never works and Jesus gets bruised. I just believe and share my faith and tesitmony.

Like I said above those folks are not teaching what is taught in the Bible.

peace and prayers guys!
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