Jesus Camp:

[saden1]

The rapture is coming folks, prepare yourself.

On a more serious note, all religions are so contradictory it's hard to take them seriously. If sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true. It sounds like a scam unlike any other. A gigantic pyramid scheme. It has always been forced down people's throats and will continue to be. They have to utilize gorilla marketing because if people ever start thinking and questioning the whole thing comes crumbling.

Religion aught to be simple, elegant, and self explanatory. Reading the bible is like reading horror story sprinkled with common sense moral verses here and there.

I really feel sorry for the children. They'll make a perfect non-thinking mouth piece for their brand of Christianity.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by saden1

The rapture is coming folks, prepare yourself.

On a more serious note, all religions are so contradictory it's hard to take them seriously. If sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true. It sounds like a scam unlike any other. A gigantic pyramid scheme. It has always been forced down people's throats and will continue to be. They have to utilize gorilla marketing because if people ever start thinking and questioning the whole thing comes crumbling.

Religion aught to be simple, elegant, and self explanatory. Reading the bible is like reading horror story sprinkled with common sense moral verses here and there.

I really feel sorry for the children. They'll make a perfect non-thinking mouth piece for their brand of Christianity.

To paint the religious world with one brush is a gross inaccuracy, as it would be to try and do the same to all the worlds people. Many flavors, of which some are good, some not so good.
It has become very popular since the release of the "Davinci Code" to attribute that which we do not agree, or don't want to agree (as it may require change we do not want to give) to some new Demonic conspiracy of the Pope and his regime.
While the Catholic church certainly has had it's problems over the years, it does not make it bad as a whole.
Like I said in my earlier post, at this time, NOBODY can prove what is the correct path to follow.
Amusingly, we will be the first to know if we are wrong.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Hog1

To paint the religious world with one brush is a gross inaccuracy, as it would be to try and do the same to all the worlds people. Many flavors, of which some are good, some not so good.
It has become very popular since the release of the "Davinci Code" to attribute that which we do not agree, or don't want to agree (as it may require change we do not want to give) to some new Demonic conspiracy of the Pope and his regime.
While the Catholic church certainly has had it's problems over the years, it does not make it bad as a whole.
Like I said in my earlier post, at this time, NOBODY can prove what is the correct path to follow.
Amusingly, we will be the first to know if we are wrong.

And what brush might that be? I am wasn't talking about the people who practice religion, rather the whole notion of religion. There isn't a single religion without contradictions and that something I can't get past, especially since god is suppose to be omnipotent and divine. I can't prove or disprove the existence of god, but I can say religion is manure flavored ice-cream on pretty cone. It is highly illogical, contradictory, and breads fear. It is evil as it divides.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by saden1

And what brush might that be? I am wasn't talking about the people who practice religion, rather the whole notion of religion. There isn't a single religion without contradictions and that something I can't get past, especially since god is suppose to be omnipotent and divine. I can't prove or disprove the existence of god, but I can say religion is manure flavored ice-cream on pretty cone. It is highly illogical, contradictory, and breads fear. It is evil as it divides.

In this case, the brush you appear to be using when you lump all religion and the practice of it together as being "evil", etc. To suggest Dr. Martin Luther King, and Jim Jones and what they believe are basically the same is quite a reach in ridicularity.
Hmmm....that would be the brush

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Hog1

In this case, the brush you appear to be using when you lump all religion and the practice of it together as being "evil", etc. To suggest Dr. Martin Luther King, and Jim Jones and what they believe are basically the same is quite a reach in ridicularity.
Hmmm....that would be the brush

What makes you think Christianity is less bizarre than Jim's cult? I particularly find passages concerning salves ironic seeing has how MLK's ancestors were enslaved.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by saden1

What makes you think Christianity is less bizarre than Jim's cult? I particularly find passages concerning salves ironic seeing has how MLK's ancestors were enslaved.

C'mon Saden - you're smarter than that. One chapter of a 1000 plus page book written (at least) over 2000 years ago as an example of the underlying religion's "bizarreness"? And then to equate this same passage as being an equivalent basis as a suicide cult? Are you just being purposely obtuse? or do you really believe this is a legitimate comparison of the two religions?

[MColeman]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

C'mon Saden - you're smarter than that. One chapter of a 1000 plus page book written (at least) over 2000 years ago as an example of the underlying religion's "bizarreness"? And then to equate this same passage as being an equivalent basis as a suicide cult? Are you just being purposely obtuse? or do you really believe this is a legitimate comparison of the two religions?

It should also be noted that the coming of Jesus wiped away the Old Testament way of life and expectations of us that God had/has. The Old Testament was the word of God as it pertained to Pre-Savior Jews (and also foretold of everything that occurred in the New Testament). During his life, Jesus preached love. Not only for fellow believers, but also of non-believers. Love (& grace) conquers all.

Basically, God knew that we could never live up to His expectations. Because of our failure He sent Jesus to this earth to live a perfect life and die in our place.

I should also say that in order to be a Christian, all that is required of you is to have a solid faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. You don't need to go to Jesus Camp, save 10 million lost souls, pledge $50k to a TV preacher, or live an Old Testament lifestyle. It's what is in your heart that truly determines your spiritual fate. Not me, not the Pentecostals, not any preacher, and certainly not the missionaries on the streets can determine this.

God does not command you to do anything you do not wish. We are each given our own free will here on Earth.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

C'mon Saden - you're smarter than that. One chapter of a 1000 plus page book written (at least) over 2000 years ago as an example of the underlying religion's "bizarreness"? And then to equate this same passage as being an equivalent basis as a suicide cult? Are you just being purposely obtuse? or do you really believe this is a legitimate comparison of the two religions?

I'm not being facetious. I simply don't think Christianity should get a pass, be it one passage or the whole book (i.e.Ezekiel). You can't simply ignore the Old Testament and pretend it is invalid. And while the New Testament is much tamer than the Old Testament, it is still contains inconsistencies (world is still 6000 years old).

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by saden1

What makes you think Christianity is less bizarre than Jim's cult? I particularly find passages concerning salves ironic seeing has how MLK's ancestors were enslaved.

Actually, I find your post rather.........bizarre.