Jesus Camp:

Daseal · 05-06-2007, 09:42 PM

Has anyone else seen this? Wow. All I can say is fanaticism in any religion isn't a good thing. Before you say you're a Christian and attack me, please watch the movie. I'm all for people finding their religion, whatever that may be, but I find this particular movement very scary.

SmootSmack · 05-06-2007, 10:36 PM

you have a link to a movie?

Daseal · 05-06-2007, 10:43 PM

Jesus Camp

It's a fairly big release. Check blockbuster and/or netflix.

SmootSmack · 05-06-2007, 10:48 PM

Interesting. From Magnolia Pictures, that's Mark Cuban's company

itvnetop · 05-06-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Interesting. From Magnolia Pictures, that's Mark Cuban's company

say what ya will re: cuban's on and off court antics, but his non-nba ventures are very cutting edge. he's also released certain indie movies on dvd the same day they're released in the theater... not sure if this will work out, but it's progressive nonetheless.

i have "jesus camp" in my netflix queue... i hear it's very intriguing. has anyone seen "hellhouse" or "the devil's playground"? both are very fascinating documentaries, as well.

SmootSmack · 05-06-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

say what ya will re: cuban's on and off court antics, but his non-nba ventures are very cutting edge. he's also released certain indie movies on dvd the same day they're released in the theater... not sure if this will work out, but it's progressive nonetheless.

i have "jesus camp" in my netflix queue... i hear it's very intriguing. has anyone seen "hellhouse" or "the devil's playground"? both are very fascinating documentaries, as well.

Magnolia has had some strong movies, Enron, Control Room, and one of the strongest docs I've ever seen "Capturing the Friedmans"

djnemo65 · 05-07-2007, 03:01 AM

Capturing the Friedmans was truly remarkable. Jesus Camp is great too, even though it freaked me out. Something about watching 8 year olds pray to a life sized cut out of George Bush makes me think Christianity in this country has veered off course a little.

hooskins · 05-07-2007, 03:10 AM

Yeah watching kids cry, and repent at 8? Wtf, it was a crazy movie, you all should see this. They were also teaching kids at home, and teaching them terrible stuff.

Here is the link for the full movie guys

Online Video: camp.avi | Veoh Video Network

gotta download it though. Worth the watch, however.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 05-07-2007, 09:43 AM

The Bible has always warned of False Teachers and Fasle Doctrin[sp?] and Cults.

Jesus said many will come to Him at the end and say they preached and did things in His names and and He will say "I knew you not" and cast them into Hell.

He also said it would be better for someone to put a heavy Mill Stone around their neck and be cast into the Sea than to lead astray one of His children.

peace and Prayers
mike
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Jesus is Just Alright with Me

mredskins · 05-07-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

say what ya will re: cuban's on and off court antics, but his non-nba ventures are very cutting edge. he's also released certain indie movies on dvd the same day they're released in the theater... not sure if this will work out, but it's progressive nonetheless.

i have "jesus camp" in my netflix queue... i hear it's very intriguing. has anyone seen "hellhouse" or "the devil's playground"? both are very fascinating documentaries, as well.

I have seen hell house. It is decent. Jesus Camp is eye opeing. they way they brain wash those children, espically about eveloution. Very sad.

Best documentary show on right now is Intervention on A&E. It is awesome. Fridays episode was so powerful. I feel like hugging my whole family after that show and thank god no one I love has an addication.

Daseal · 05-07-2007, 11:22 AM

The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch.

RobH4413 · 05-07-2007, 11:26 AM

Reminds me of our good friend butters. The south park bi curious episode. I'm all about educating your children in religion and faith, but sometimes the line between education and brainwashing is awfully thin.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 05-07-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch.

I have no problem saying I am 100% right about believing in Jesus and the Holy Bible. There is no gray area and other way to Heaven but by Jesus. God provided us with His Word and that is the Holy Bible. If you or anyone believes different I believe you and they would be 100% wrong.

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6

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Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

You may not believe and clearly many folks don't believe but the evidence I've seen in my small life trumps people opinions.

I'm not wrong to say I am 100% right. I'm a faithful and humble follower of Jesus the Christ.

I never argue about my religion or try to beat people in the head with Jesus. Never works and Jesus gets bruised. I just believe and share my faith and tesitmony.

Like I said above those folks are not teaching what is taught in the Bible.

peace and prayers guys!
mike
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Daseal · 05-07-2007, 12:41 PM

SBF -- These people believe 100% that they are correct too and they do nothing but follow the bible. The bible is written in a way where it can be interpreted in multiple ways. All religions are fashioned in this way. That's how radical Muslims can 'justify' their actions just like fanatical Christians who go around blowing up abortion clinics and killing people 'justify' that.

If you want to get into semantics, any organized religion falls into the label of a cult.

As you know, I'm not a religious guy. I basically feel that if there is an afterlife, as long as you're a genuinely good person, you have no problems. I seriously doubt someone will be turned down from a life of paradise because of the fact that they eat pork. Just my opinion.

WillH · 05-07-2007, 12:56 PM

In my opinion the Bible is a book that isn't to be taken as a book of laws to be forced on people, but rather a book of moral stories to live by. It's not 100% right in anything. I think SBF is right on the money... There is no need to beat any religion into anyone.

Jesus himself said that the pharisees and Jewish leaders at the time were taking tradition way to intensely. They put all this energy into fasting, praying, observing, etc. and missed out on what religion should be.

I think a great number of Christian people/societies today still are misinterpreting Jesus' message and putting too much emphasis on a church structure and tradition, and not enough on spirituality.

The Bible is probably such a victim of corruption because of the very way it was written. It was meant to be interpreted many different ways to different people, and that's exactly what happened.

People are now taking it in a way that doesn't bring out the greater good. They're using it for power, money, greed, etc.. It's not right and things like Jesus camp just will frustrate people and turn them away from what is a very inspiring and complex religion.

In my opinion, the bible was written by humans, but inspired by the good. Call this good "God" or whatever you want, but I think if there is an objective Good, the bible certainly contains a lot of it. Many people miss out on a lot of the philosophical benefits of the Bible, because it's usually forced on them, or promoted by bad organizations.

One book that was written off as heresy is the Gospel of Thomas. While it's not biblical cannon, I think it's an inspiring read that really gets down to the basics of Christianity. It's relatively short, but I think it holds true to Jesus' ideals, and parallels a lot of his philosophy. It's not a bad read at all.

A Translation of the Gospel of Thomas

Edit: This is actually RobH4413.. I'm on my cousins computer and didn't log in. I suck.

05-06-2007, 09:42 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Jesus Camp: Has anyone else seen this? Wow. All I can say is fanaticism in any religion isn't a good thing. Before you say you're a Christian and attack me, please watch the movie. I'm all for people finding their religion, whatever that may be, but I find this particular movement very scary. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-06-2007, 10:36 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Jesus Camp: you have a link to a movie? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-06-2007, 10:43 PM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Jesus Camp: Jesus Camp It's a fairly big release. Check blockbuster and/or netflix. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-06-2007, 10:48 PM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Jesus Camp: Interesting. From Magnolia Pictures, that's Mark Cuban's company __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-07-2007, 03:01 AM	#7
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Jesus Camp: Capturing the Friedmans was truly remarkable. Jesus Camp is great too, even though it freaked me out. Something about watching 8 year olds pray to a life sized cut out of George Bush makes me think Christianity in this country has veered off course a little.

05-07-2007, 03:10 AM	#8
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Jesus Camp: Yeah watching kids cry, and repent at 8? Wtf, it was a crazy movie, you all should see this. They were also teaching kids at home, and teaching them terrible stuff. Here is the link for the full movie guys Online Video: camp.avi \| Veoh Video Network gotta download it though. Worth the watch, however. __________________ Vacancy

05-07-2007, 09:43 AM	#9
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 62 Posts: 2,507	Re: Jesus Camp: The Bible has always warned of False Teachers and Fasle Doctrin[sp?] and Cults. Jesus said many will come to Him at the end and say they preached and did things in His names and and He will say "I knew you not" and cast them into Hell. He also said it would be better for someone to put a heavy Mill Stone around their neck and be cast into the Sea than to lead astray one of His children. peace and Prayers mike <>< Jesus is Just Alright with Me __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

05-07-2007, 11:22 AM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Jesus Camp: The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-07-2007, 11:26 AM	#12
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Jesus Camp: Reminds me of our good friend butters. The south park bi curious episode. I'm all about educating your children in religion and faith, but sometimes the line between education and brainwashing is awfully thin. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

05-07-2007, 12:41 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Jesus Camp: SBF -- These people believe 100% that they are correct too and they do nothing but follow the bible. The bible is written in a way where it can be interpreted in multiple ways. All religions are fashioned in this way. That's how radical Muslims can 'justify' their actions just like fanatical Christians who go around blowing up abortion clinics and killing people 'justify' that. If you want to get into semantics, any organized religion falls into the label of a cult. As you know, I'm not a religious guy. I basically feel that if there is an afterlife, as long as you're a genuinely good person, you have no problems. I seriously doubt someone will be turned down from a life of paradise because of the fact that they eat pork. Just my opinion. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-07-2007, 12:56 PM	#15
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,592	Re: Jesus Camp: In my opinion the Bible is a book that isn't to be taken as a book of laws to be forced on people, but rather a book of moral stories to live by. It's not 100% right in anything. I think SBF is right on the money... There is no need to beat any religion into anyone. Jesus himself said that the pharisees and Jewish leaders at the time were taking tradition way to intensely. They put all this energy into fasting, praying, observing, etc. and missed out on what religion should be. I think a great number of Christian people/societies today still are misinterpreting Jesus' message and putting too much emphasis on a church structure and tradition, and not enough on spirituality. The Bible is probably such a victim of corruption because of the very way it was written. It was meant to be interpreted many different ways to different people, and that's exactly what happened. People are now taking it in a way that doesn't bring out the greater good. They're using it for power, money, greed, etc.. It's not right and things like Jesus camp just will frustrate people and turn them away from what is a very inspiring and complex religion. In my opinion, the bible was written by humans, but inspired by the good. Call this good "God" or whatever you want, but I think if there is an objective Good, the bible certainly contains a lot of it. Many people miss out on a lot of the philosophical benefits of the Bible, because it's usually forced on them, or promoted by bad organizations. One book that was written off as heresy is the Gospel of Thomas. While it's not biblical cannon, I think it's an inspiring read that really gets down to the basics of Christianity. It's relatively short, but I think it holds true to Jesus' ideals, and parallels a lot of his philosophy. It's not a bad read at all. A Translation of the Gospel of Thomas Edit: This is actually RobH4413.. I'm on my cousins computer and didn't log in. I suck.

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