Is Brady Quinn Being Selfish By Holding Out?

[wilsowilso]

I think Brady Quinn reminds me of Jake Plummer because of his athleticism and his swagger. Whenever Brady Quinn is surrounded by inferior talent like you say he had at ND I just don't think that he can make up the difference. At times Plummer showed that he could guide an inferior team to victory. The very good to great pro QB's can do exactly that on a regular basis. I guess calling him Jake Plummer Light was too harsh. Let's just call him Jake Plummer Like in my book.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I think Brady Quinn reminds me of Jake Plummer because of his athleticism and his swagger. Whenever Brady Quinn is surrounded by inferior talent like you say he had at ND I just don't think that he can make up the difference. At times Plummer showed that he could guide an inferior team to victory. The very good to great pro QB's can do exactly that on a regular basis. I guess calling him Jake Plummer Light was too harsh. Let's just call him Jake Plummer Like in my book.

So you were saying that he reminds you of Jake Plummer, not that he will actually play like Jake Plummer?

Brady Quinn is a much better QB prospect than Plummer was though. Plummer wasn't a bad prospect, but he was below average.

I don't know too many QBs who can consistently guide an inferior team to victory. Your boy Tom Brady couldn't, Carson Palmer didn't, Vince Young did but only in college when he was athletically superior to everyone on the field. Peyton Manning...maybe, but even he couldn't consistently beat a superior team.

If you apply the same standard you are putting on Quinn to every prospective NFL QB, that he has to beat superior teams, I don't think you'd find a good one. Seemingly you not only have unrealistic expectations for Quinn, but a lot of other QBs, assuming no bias.

But I guess thats just my opinion of the situation.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

So you were saying that he reminds you of Jake Plummer, not that he will actually play like Jake Plummer?

Brady Quinn is a much better QB prospect than Plummer was though. Plummer wasn't a bad prospect, but he was below average.

I don't know too many QBs who can consistently guide an inferior team to victory. Your boy Tom Brady couldn't, Carson Palmer didn't, Vince Young did but only in college when he was athletically superior to everyone on the field. Peyton Manning...maybe, but even he couldn't consistently beat a superior team.

If you apply the same standard you are putting on Quinn to every prospective NFL QB, that he has to beat superior teams, I don't think you'd find a good one. Seemingly you not only have unrealistic expectations for Quinn, but a lot of other QBs, assuming no bias.

But I guess thats just my opinion of the situation.

A really inferior team is another story and like you said even a great QB can't put that kind of burden on his shoulders on a consistent basis. I'm talking about teams that are maybe 5% to 10% inferior. I honestly think great QB's can make that up every single day that they step on the field.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

A really inferior team is another story and like you said even a great QB can't put that kind of burden on his shoulders on a consistent basis. I'm talking about teams that are maybe 5% to 10% inferior. I honestly think great QB's can make that up every single day that they step on the field.

Oh, and I'm in total agreement.

When theres a small gap in talent between two teams excluding the QB, then a great QB (inferior team) should be able to beat a bad QB (superior team) a majority of time.

But think about it: if you are looking at the total package, QBs and all, is the team with the great QB really inferior? Probably not. If the gap in QB skill is big enough, then they probably have the better team.

I think you are making it sound like that you have a football team...and then you have your quarterback variable. Of course, the QB is part of the football team, and you really can't analyze the accomplishments of the team without including the QB, and vice versa.