On Blache

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa...

1) Check the time of possession over the passed 6 games...

2) I'll guarantee you that the Bungles are averaging 25.6 points allowed. They scored 20 against us. I'll guarantee you that 10 of their 13 other opponents have scored 20 or more vs them this year.

3) Below average pass defense?? HUH?? Opponents completing 55% of their passes (3rd in NFL), a 75.1 QB rating against us (7th), 6.35 yards per attempt (5th), only 188 ypg against (6th)... all of this is BELOW average??

4) Talk about "not knowing how to use statistics" to make an argument....
Roethlisberger - 29.4 completion % / 15.1 QB rating vs Skins - 59.4% comp / 80.2 QBR overall
Flacco - 47% comp / 64.4 QBR vs Skins - 58.7% comp / 76.9 QBR overall
Hasselbeck - 50% comp /54.7 QBR vs Skins - 52% comp / 57.8 QBR overall
Bulger - 136 yds passing vs Skins
Anderson - 37.8% comp / 57.9 QBR vs Skins - 50.2% comp /66.5 QBR overall

and for the big ones....

Brees - season low 216yds, 69.6 QB Rating vs Skins - 93.9 QBR overall
and
Warner - season low 192 yds, 53.3% comp, 81.5 QBR vs Skins - 68.4%/97.5 QBR overall

So how does every team pass the ball WORSE against other teams??




Seriously... do not talk about someone not knowing how to read statistics... enough with the attacks, if you disagree, fine, but people don't go attacking others when you make no sense at all yourself...

Way to omit Leftwich, Fitzpatrick, Orlovsky, and Bulger because they don't support your argument. Better yet, thanks for checking to see that your argument is bunk, and then trying to throw out selective stats anyway, and hoping I wouldn't notice.

I thought we defended Warner and Brees pretty darn well three months ago. Our offense also averaged 26.5 points between those games, and at the time, was clearly helping to contribute to our team success.

Thanks though, I needed a good chuckle. Carry on.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

As I said in another thread...

Our Defense (and definitely Blache) is NOT TO BLAME!!

The ONLY stat that matters is POINTS ALLOWED... or am I wrong??

OVER THE LINE!

[firstdown]

The D is just not the problem with this team at this point. Yes, we have let a few teams run out the clock in the 4th but if our O had scored 24 points it would not have mattered. We have leaned on the D way to long while our O has done nothing to help them along.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Way to omit Leftwich, Fitzpatrick, Orlovsky, and Bulger because they don't support your argument. Better yet, thanks for checking to see that your argument is bunk, and then trying to throw out selective stats anyway, and hoping I wouldn't notice.

I thought we defended Warner and Brees pretty darn well three months ago. Our offense also averaged 26.5 points between those games, and at the time, was clearly helping to contribute to our team success.

Thanks though, I needed a good chuckle. Carry on.

Every single expert that has followed the Redskins has basically said that the defense has done it's job. That Blache and his coaches are doing a nice job considering what they have to work with. These are people that played in the NFL and know more about football than you do. Yet you seem to try and over analyze everything...from some quote Blache said to talking about schemes that you probably know nothing about. Amazing.

[Joe Kidd]

I do think there's been a dropoff from Williams to Blache. His schemes are much more vanilla and pretty boring frankly, and overall I think Williams is a more knowledgeable and skillful coordinator.

[celts32]

Blache is not in the top 20 of problems on this team. The Redskins unwillingness to sink draft picks and money into rebuilding thier lines is not the Defensive Coordinators fault. he works with the talent he is given and he's done a damn good job with what he has if you ask me.

[vallin21]

Exactly. The redskins have more issues in the FO than with Blache. He's laying with guys who are underachievers and past their prime on the d- line. Thats not Blache's fault.

[sportscurmudgeon]

This should not be an "either/or" discussion. It should be a "both/and" discussion. Or maybe a "neither/nor" discussion.

Greg Blache is not a great defensive coordinator. When he left Chicago, no one their held a "Pity Party" for the team or the fans or the rest of the coaching staff.

Here in Washington, Blache has no great players on the defense; he has three or four who are well above average and the rest are very ordinary on most Sundays.

Put those two things together and look at the 7-7 record and you have to say that Blache is doing fine with what he has. Neither Blache nor this assemblage of defensive talent is taking the Redskins - or any NFL team deep in the playoffs.

[Ruhskins]

The defense needs some work, but the offensive side of the ball has the biggest issues. A lot of the woes of the defense could be fixed by our offense being more effective.

[Joe Kidd]

The D has been solid this year but at times they are prone to getting gashed at the worst times. When we need a stop late in a game they just can't seem to get it. Not saying that's all coaching but it's a part of it. I think there's more talent on the D then some people are giving them credit for.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Joe Kidd

The D has been solid this year but at times they are prone to getting gashed at the worst times. When we need a stop late in a game they just can't seem to get it. Not saying that's all coaching but it's a part of it. I think there's more talent on the D then some people are giving them credit for.

There is talent but it's mostly on the back end and to be a dominant D it needs to be up front.

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Exactly. The redskins have more issues in the FO than with Blache. He's laying with guys who are underachievers and past their prime on the d- line. Thats not Blache's fault.

By my count we've had 57 picks since 2000.

30 for offense
25 for Defense
2 for Special Teams

7 QB
7 WR(despite the claim by the Post recently we've been drafting a lot, we've picked the same number of QB's)
4 TE
4 RB
8 OL

6 DL
7 LB
12 DB

More than any position on the O. It even tops WR and TE put together if you want to, since I counted CB and S together.

I think this strongly points to DL not being a priority. But the defensive backfield is about as good as it's going to get.

I actually think there's a good chance we will go for the line this season, even if it's by process of elimination, unless we trade the pick. Draft a reciever and we have to give up on someone we probably don't want to. RB's one of out most talented positions. We don't need another first round QB. The secondary is loaded. The only position that can make a claim for help as much as the lines might be linebacker.

[SBXVII]

To be honest...the shiznit has been the 3-4 for several years now. I have wondered why we have not changed to that but obviously when Williams was here he like the 4-3 with his added twist. All of his pressure came from CB or Safeties and occassional LB blitzes. The whole up front scheme is based off of stopping the run unfortunatly out of 4 players 2 were run stuffers. The others were better at pass. In Blache it was for the most part similar. I however believe his scheme is based off of LB blitzes. We have not seen a whole lot of Safety or CB blitzes and when we try it they get picked up or caught up at the line.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by MrJL

Thing is, I don't think you need to assign a lot of blame to Blache to feel it's time for a change.

With the offense struggling we need to switch from a D philosophy where they keep the O in the game, to where they try to win the game.

How can the D keep the O in the game if the O cannot put points on the board or convert third downs?

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by firstdown

How can the D keep the O in the game if the O cannot put points on the board or convert third downs?

Personally, I've thought the O's come together a couple of times late in the game. Such as the fourth down TD against the Ravens and the 80-some yard drive that didn't get anything against the Bengals but still got them to the half yard line. That suggests something was coming together on the O. Then the D gives up another score and the O has to abandon what finally started working because a one score game is now a two score game.