Another Vinny Special: Deangelo Hall

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

No sir! Bat that ball down. I'd rather have a shut down guy than a guy who gets beat for TDs, but comes up with an occasional INT.

But Rogers is far from a shutdown corner. He's good, no doubt, but until last season he got toasted pretty consistently for big plays. His swagger always far exceeded his production.

He's got more excuses than interceptions. His latest: Cornerback DeAngelo Hall(notes) confessed to having a subpar outing, and Rogers—who couldn’t get a grip on one that could have changed the game’s tone on the Giants’ first possession.

“I thought I had a shot at it, but I was facing that sun and that glare,” Rogers said. So the sun was in your eyes but you got two hands on it and dropped it. Again. Interesting.

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There's about 8 different numbers I could cite to suggest otherwise, but since we both have two eyes and understand football well, I'll just point out that over their respective careers, the average pass thrown against Rogers goes for just under two yards less than the average pass thrown at Hall (I think 6.2 for Rogers and 7.9 for Hall). How great is that difference? Probably more than a win/year.

There's obviously a limiting effect on Rogers due to the fact that he doesn't get a whole lot of balls thrown his way, and seems to drop 5 or so of the 8 catchable INTs he gets in position for, but I'm not sure I'd call Hall a playmaker either, at least not one that creates his own plays. I think he's more of the oppertunistic type.

I think we can agree that for most of their respective careers that Hall has been on #1 WR and Rogers has been on #2 WR so you'd think the 1's are more apt to have deeper routes so that would make sense to have a higher YPA against.

I don't how you call a CB with 23 INT in 6 years not a playmaker but make excuses for one with 6 INT in 5 years. Who cares if he's the opportunistic type if he takes advantage of the opportunities. Rogers clearly does not.