How far can Beck take us?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

What do you mean? Everyone is talking about Beck, and whether he can do it or not!! That is drumming up interest!!!!!!!! Getting folks to talk, etc is still ginning up publicity. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys have stayed in the limelight using these type of tactics. If they didn't, nobody would give a rat's ass about them. Same with the Redskins. The new thing now among celebrities is to always stay in the headlines, even with negative publicity. You can't tell me the Cowboys haven't made $$$$$$$$$$$ off of their soap opera existence the last 15 years. And Snyder has Jones tactics down pat as well. How else can you be one of the richest sports franchises in the world and always putting out a crap product?

You might be right about negative publicity still being publicity and all that, but starting John Beck is not a publicity move. Look at it like this: Do you think Snyder wants to win, or make money? Granted, he wants to make both. But winning is at the top of his agenda, because there's no doubt if the Redskins were winning consistently, he'd make even more money than he's making now.

Shanny is staking his future on these two qb's. If he didn't think they were capable of being a starting quarterback, we would've traded for, signed, or drafted someone that could be.

Being a coach is not about publicity stunts. It's about winning games. To think that Shanny would rather care about publicity than winning football games is asinine, because if he doesn't win games he won't stick around. And the bottom line is that Shanny and Bruce Allen are running this team, not Dan Snyder. You think Dan Snyder would go out and give 27 mil to a defensive end with minimal starting experience? Please.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by mooby

You might be right about negative publicity still being publicity and all that, but starting John Beck is not a publicity move. Look at it like this: Do you think Snyder wants to win, or make money? Granted, he wants to make both. But winning is at the top of his agenda, because there's no doubt if the Redskins were winning consistently, he'd make even more money than he's making now.

Shanny is staking his future on these two qb's. If he didn't think they were capable of being a starting quarterback, we would've traded for, signed, or drafted someone that could be.

+1 I was thinking the same thing about Beck vs Kolb:

Originally Posted by me from another forum

Imo people/many fans have a hard time separating a QB's individual talent from the context of their surroundings.

How much of Kolb's success is due to the Eagles FO, scheme, coaching, and surrounding talent?

How much of Beck's 'failure' was due to Miami's FO, scheme, coaching and surrounding talent?

That's why a proper assessment of skillset is important.

I don't think their is a huge difference between the skillset of Kolb vs John Beck.

But, even in this forum the perception is that Beck is barely more physically talented then Rex Grossman.

I think its a safe bet that if Beck wins the starting job here he'll put up better numbers then Kolb.