Bobby Taylor at Safety

[djnemo65]

[QUOTE=djnemo65]Bowen IS better than Bobby. This is a guy who is way past his prime, who was released one year into his deal after not performing, and who plays a position that we have a raft of talent at already. The old Skins would have signed him but the new fiscally responsible Gibbs led Redskins will not.

In spite of all the criticisms on this board of Snyder's profligate spending habits - legitimate to be sure - its pretty ironic that everytime some washed up bum gets released you can count on at least someone on this site going off on why we should sign them.[QUOTE]

sorry, was trying to edit something and must have hit quote instead...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I like how we are starting to lay down a price and let people pick where they want to be.

[jacobyfan]

I'm tired of people dinging Bowen. There are reasons that GW puts in a 3rd corner a lot of the time and one of them is so that a safety can play close to the line or blitz if needed. Bowen is one of the most hard-nosed players on our team. You need to remember that GW is a Buddy Ryan acolyte. Buddy Ryan disdained worrying about fancy coverages and instead used fairly simple coverages and innovative blitzes to get to QBs and make them throw into those simple coverages. GW is of course more advanced than that (as are most league D corrdinators nowadays), but he has that same mentality and I'd have to say that he probably really likes Bowen's toughness and wants him on the field unless it's an obvious passing situation and he's not blitzing Bowen. Just remember that especially with Arrington and Bowen back, you don't have to worry much about deep pass coverage if the QB is on his ass or falling backwards. I simply prefer to have a defense chock full of guys who will knock you the f*ck out. Just imagine if Barrow comes back at full speed and Rodgers picks up on the mentality of GW. EVERYONE at LB and DB would basically be a headhunter.

As far as BobbyT, I think he'd be nice to have at nickel in case someone gets hurt.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by jacobyfan

I'm tired of people dinging Bowen. There are reasons that GW puts in a 3rd corner a lot of the time and one of them is so that a safety can play close to the line or blitz if needed. Bowen is one of the most hard-nosed players on our team. You need to remember that GW is a Buddy Ryan acolyte. Buddy Ryan disdained worrying about fancy coverages and instead used fairly simple coverages and innovative blitzes to get to QBs and make them throw into those simple coverages. GW is of course more advanced than that (as are most league D corrdinators nowadays), but he has that same mentality and I'd have to say that he probably really likes Bowen's toughness and wants him on the field unless it's an obvious passing situation and he's not blitzing Bowen. Just remember that especially with Arrington and Bowen back, you don't have to worry much about deep pass coverage if the QB is on his ass or falling backwards. I simply prefer to have a defense chock full of guys who will knock you the f*ck out. Just imagine if Barrow comes back at full speed and Rodgers picks up on the mentality of GW. EVERYONE at LB and DB would basically be a headhunter.

As far as BobbyT, I think he'd be nice to have at nickel in case someone gets hurt.

I agree completley about Bowen. I'm a huge Bowen fan, and he has blown a few plays and is not amazing in coverage. However, he is a hard nosed type guy, and I was really excited to see what he would do last season after he started out strong. Its ashame he got hurt. I expect some good things from him this season.

[jacobyfan]

I'm glad someone else will speak up that Bowen isn't that bad. Also remember Bowen's last full year we had George Edwards coaching the defense and EVERYONE got burned MOST of the time. He's not stellar in pass coverage, agreed. However, I think that with GW pulling the strings, he can be better than a lot of you seem to think. To sum it up, the LBs and CBs (if healthy)

Washington - will knock you the f*ck out
Barrow - will knock you the f*ck out
Arrington - might kill you
Springs - will knock you the f*ck out
Bowen - will knock you the f*ck out
Taylor - might kill you
Rodgers - ? (will probably at least make a tackle, he did at Auburn)

It's hard not to like that. Most other fans only dream that their defense would be as hard-nosed and aggressive as ours is. If the offense can simply get off the ground, (read: rank 20th or so) we are a very scary opponent.

[Longtimefan]

It's getting to be old hat; everytime a player is released from some other team around the league someone immediately tries to fit him in with our team. Yesterday it was Glover & Ellis of the Cowboys (of all teams) tomorrow it will be someone else, and before training camp starts there's no telling how many more. At the rate we're going we will be talking about every player with a name that is cut around the league. Enough is enough already, every player cut around the league is not going to be a Redskin, that's the old mentality we're trying to rid ourselves of.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

It's getting to be old hat; everytime a player is released from some other team around the league someone immediately tries to fit him in with our team. Yesterday it was Glover & Ellis of the Cowboys (of all teams) tomorrow it will be someone else, and before training camp starts there's no telling how many more. At the rate we're going we will be talking about every player with a name that is cut around the league. Enough is enough already, every player cut around the league is not going to be a Redskin, that's the old mentality we're trying to rid ourselves of.

I agree it can get old, but at the same time there are definitely players worth talking about. And since it's the offseason, there's not much else to talk about.

[jacobyfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree it can get old, but at the same time there are definitely players worth talking about. And since it's the offseason, there's not much else to talk about.

Was about to say the same exact thing. We have to talk about SOMETHING!

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

i think we could use him at one of the safety positions to pair with st.

At the rate things are going now with STs ATVgate thing in Florida, we may be signing Bobby Taylor to replace him, not just pair up with him.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I wouldn't be for signing him. Taylor would likely be a distraction, but even if Taylor committed the crime (which we don't know yet), he won't see jail time until at least mid-way through the season.