Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[GTripp0012]

Again, picking who would replace him is beyond the scope of the thread. I understand the practicality of the argument that you can fire him and end up hiring another bad coach. I get that. I'm not sure that's much of a defense of the current administration, but I get it.

Anyway, 40 games is not a small sample. It's the average NFL career for a player.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Again, picking who would replace him is beyond the scope of the thread. I understand the practicality of the argument that you can fire him and end up hiring another bad coach. I get that. I'm not sure that's much of a defense of the current administration, but I get it.

Anyway, 40 games is not a small sample. It's the average NFL career for a player.

Well, it's pretty hard to limit the scope to ending one regime, but not think about what replaces it.

Somebody made a pretty brilliant observation that RG3 (alone) will attract coaching talent. I think Snyder should look at it this way. We have something very special to offer.

So, to hell with scope. I'd take Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher tomorrow. I'd take Parcells tomorrow too. Outside the legacy coaches you just have to look around the league at teams that are getting it right.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

So, to hell with scope. I'd take Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher tomorrow. I'd take Parcells tomorrow too. Outside the legacy coaches you just have to look around the league at teams that are getting it right.

Aren't you a little nervous that big picture, we'd be making the same mistake there we did with Shanahan.

I think you have to get someone unproven. Not Zorn-level unproven, but maybe Todd Bowles unproven?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well, it's pretty hard to limit the scope to ending one regime, but not think about what replaces it.

Somebody made a pretty brilliant observation that RG3 (alone) will attract coaching talent. I think Snyder should look at it this way. We have something very special to offer.

So, to hell with scope. I'd take Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher tomorrow. I'd take Parcells tomorrow too. Outside the legacy coaches you just have to look around the league at teams that are getting it right.

You have a problem with "living off his overrated past" Shanahan, yet you'd instantly go after Cowher or Gruden?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You have a problem with "living off his overrated past" Shanahan, yet you'd instantly go after Cowher or Gruden?

Yes, because they aren't two bit moron knuckleheaded egotistic sacks of dog shit that the rest of the league has read the book on and knows their moves 2 moves in advance, just running their teams into the ground for no reason. That's the problem with Shanny.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by mooby

Yes, because they aren't two bit moron knuckleheaded egotistic sacks of dog shit that the rest of the league has read the book on and knows their moves 2 moves in advance, just running their teams into the ground for no reason. That's the problem with Shanny.

........Is there nothing more persuasive than well founded, empirically derived logic?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You have a problem with "living off his overrated past" Shanahan, yet you'd instantly go after Cowher or Gruden?

Not quite go after. If any three of Cowher, Parcells or Gruden called the Redskins to say they wanted to come back from "retirement" and coach this team, with this QB, I think you talk to them. With Mike, it was always about his ego, but I think his coming out of retirement had more to do with being fired from Denver. That's more like spite, and spite only goes so far. Parcells has that rep as a guy with a big ego. I never heard Cowher or Gruden described that way, though you'd know more about it to be sure. What I think is that those guys love football. I think Mike's still in the game because of his ego and spite, and I remember saying that before Snyder hired him.

But GTripp could be right about finding that rising talent, future Lombardi winner too.

And for the love of all that's decent, please don't try to put Kyle in that category.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Not quite go after. If any three of Cowher, Parcells or Gruden called the Redskins to say they wanted to come back from "retirement" and coach this team, with this QB, I think you talk to them. With Mike, it was always about his ego, but I think his coming out of retirement had more to do with being fired from Denver. That's more like spite, and spite only goes so far. Parcells has that rep as a guy with a big ego. I never heard Cowher or Gruden described that way, though you'd know more about it to be sure. What I think is that those guys love football. I think Mike's still in the game because of his ego and spite, and I remember saying that before Snyder hired him.

But GTripp could be right about finding that rising talent, future Lombardi winner too.

And for the love of all that's decent, please don't try to put Kyle in that category.

Oh I see. So Mike Shanahan doesn't like football really, he's just got a big ego?