Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

RGIII · 10-28-2012, 11:08 PM

This is so "Romney vs Obama".

MTK · 10-28-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Anyone have real proof Shanahan has a crazy ego?

Have you read his book?

Safe to say you have to have a pretty big ego to be a great coach in this league. Not that it's a bad thing, I think it comes with the territory.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-28-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Nothing is more ridiculous than waiting two years then doing what we should have done three years before.

Sorry bro, but firing Shanahan just isn't the answer right now.

The Offense is clicking pretty well, even with the injuries.

S Teams are average, at least it looks like we finally found a kicker.

I don't think it would hurt anything to make some serious changes on the Defense though. Hell it can't get much worse, so I would not be surprised to see some changes with the defensive coaching staff over the next couple weeks. That, I think is reasonable, if not probable...

MTK · 10-28-2012, 11:20 PM

I'm glad the majority of fans haven't lost their heads just yet.

Evilgrin · 10-28-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Have you read his book?

Safe to say you have to have a pretty big ego to be a great coach in this league. Not that it's a bad thing, I think it comes with the territory.

I meant crazy ego, as in maniacal like some here love to think.

GTripp0012 · 10-28-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm glad the majority of fans haven't lost their heads just yet.

I think everyone has just institutionalized losing, at least to the point where it doesn't set off red flags anymore.

I don't know how else to explain what goes on. People seem to be really convinced that this is normal. Good for them, I guess.

skinsfaninok · 10-28-2012, 11:37 PM

Many and I mean many Dallas fans have called in for Garrett's head tonight. You think skins fans r bad today? Should hear some of these Dallas fans

Chief X_Phackter · 10-28-2012, 11:43 PM

Sorry, I don't see red flags when a team loses on the road to Pittsburgh, or on the road to the defending SB Champs, or even at home to the only remaining undefeated team in the league. Yeah, we could have pulled out a few of the five we have lost, but we didn't. Largely, if not mostly due to our porous defense.

I think it is an understatement to say that the defense has underperformed this year, injuries or not. And I am a fan of some coaching changes on that side of the ball, but beyond that - don't F*** with it.

KLHJ2 · 10-28-2012, 11:44 PM

I have not posted in a loooooonnnngggg time, but I just could not resist after seeing this poll.

I know that the NFL is a "win now" league, but seriously? He started with garbage and has put a pretty good product on the field regardless of the current record. The team has so many issues that are out of his control that makes even the thought of his firing absolutely absurd. He took over a team with a so so defense and a terrible offense and has turned it into a team with a terrible defense and a good offense. On top of that the depth is much improved.

Offensively he has put together a pretty decent offensive line. He cleaned house at RB and drafted another 6th round gem. He has brought in a pleathora of recievers that are contributing in many ways. It can still use some work (especially after today), but we all knew that WR was an issue that would have to be addressed next year. Finally and most importantly he drafted the best QB that we have seen in franchise history (no offense to Baugh, Jorgensen, Theisman, or Rypien).

On defense they switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4. They drafted Orakpo and Kerrigan. They put a pretty decent squad together. The problem lies in the fact that we have three major injuries and a suspension that have hampered the defense to this point in the season. Those things are out of his control. I think that barring those things this defense would have looked much different this season. We'll get them back next year. It's no secret that our corners are average at best, but thir weaknesses would have been covered up by a healthy defense at the rest of the positions.

On special teams it seems as if they have finally struck gold at kicker and returner.

Bottom line, the team is much more improved now from when Shannahan took over the team. The team is still in the hunt. They have been in all but 1 game this season. It is realistic that they could finish around .500 or better. I am excited for the rest of the season and I would love to see what additions they make at WR and Corner over the next two years. It is comming together and it is visible, I would love for us to stay patient. I realize that it is a tall order in DC, but I truly believe in the direction that this team is heading.

Edit: I gave them credit for Orakpo and that was incorrect, but I still stand by my statements otherwise.

MTK · 10-28-2012, 11:48 PM

Angry where you been?

KLHJ2 · 10-28-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Angry where you been?

Long story, but in short "Church".

The Goat · 10-28-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Really?

Ridiculous thread.

I guess it is his fault that 6/7 projected starters ended up on IR/PUP or suspended this year. Not to mention RGIIIs #1 WR hasn't been on the field for several weeks.

If they pay half as much attention to the defense in the coming off season as they did the offense this past off season we will be right in the mix for a run next year.

This thing was a mess when he came aboard and just 2 and a half years into it things are looking bright. Now is not the time to blow it up again...cause that is what happens when you remove a HC. Systems change, schemes change, personnel change, coaches change...You really want to start this whole thing over now?

Not me, not now. See what it looks like two years from now and if we are still treading at .500, then yeah...time for a change.

Huh? Still treading at .500? That was Zorn, not Shanny

Deivybaby · 10-28-2012, 11:59 PM

Listen guys we suck and to be honest Panthers are 1-5 and guess what ? we usually lose to those type of team with a awful homefield advantage . We also do horrible against mobile QB's so get ready for us to lose again.

I mean week 1 was nice and wee2 kinda destroyed my heart.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 10-29-2012, 12:03 AM

Nice thread... fire them all..... lol

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 10-29-2012, 12:06 AM

Next week they win.... All RG III show.

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10-28-2012, 11:37 PM	#232
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,174	Many and I mean many Dallas fans have called in for Garrett's head tonight. You think skins fans r bad today? Should hear some of these Dallas fans __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-28-2012, 11:43 PM	#233
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,635	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Sorry, I don't see red flags when a team loses on the road to Pittsburgh, or on the road to the defending SB Champs, or even at home to the only remaining undefeated team in the league. Yeah, we could have pulled out a few of the five we have lost, but we didn't. Largely, if not mostly due to our porous defense. I think it is an understatement to say that the defense has underperformed this year, injuries or not. And I am a fan of some coaching changes on that side of the ball, but beyond that - don't F*** with it.

10-28-2012, 11:44 PM	#234
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? I have not posted in a loooooonnnngggg time, but I just could not resist after seeing this poll. I know that the NFL is a "win now" league, but seriously? He started with garbage and has put a pretty good product on the field regardless of the current record. The team has so many issues that are out of his control that makes even the thought of his firing absolutely absurd. He took over a team with a so so defense and a terrible offense and has turned it into a team with a terrible defense and a good offense. On top of that the depth is much improved. Offensively he has put together a pretty decent offensive line. He cleaned house at RB and drafted another 6th round gem. He has brought in a pleathora of recievers that are contributing in many ways. It can still use some work (especially after today), but we all knew that WR was an issue that would have to be addressed next year. Finally and most importantly he drafted the best QB that we have seen in franchise history (no offense to Baugh, Jorgensen, Theisman, or Rypien). On defense they switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4. They drafted Orakpo and Kerrigan. They put a pretty decent squad together. The problem lies in the fact that we have three major injuries and a suspension that have hampered the defense to this point in the season. Those things are out of his control. I think that barring those things this defense would have looked much different this season. We'll get them back next year. It's no secret that our corners are average at best, but thir weaknesses would have been covered up by a healthy defense at the rest of the positions. On special teams it seems as if they have finally struck gold at kicker and returner. Bottom line, the team is much more improved now from when Shannahan took over the team. The team is still in the hunt. They have been in all but 1 game this season. It is realistic that they could finish around .500 or better. I am excited for the rest of the season and I would love to see what additions they make at WR and Corner over the next two years. It is comming together and it is visible, I would love for us to stay patient. I realize that it is a tall order in DC, but I truly believe in the direction that this team is heading. Edit: I gave them credit for Orakpo and that was incorrect, but I still stand by my statements otherwise. Last edited by KLHJ2; 10-28-2012 at 11:52 PM.

10-28-2012, 11:48 PM	#235
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10-28-2012, 11:59 PM	#238
Deivybaby Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 129	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Listen guys we suck and to be honest Panthers are 1-5 and guess what ? we usually lose to those type of team with a awful homefield advantage . We also do horrible against mobile QB's so get ready for us to lose again. I mean week 1 was nice and wee2 kinda destroyed my heart.

10-29-2012, 12:03 AM	#239
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Nice thread... fire them all..... lol __________________ Just win.

10-29-2012, 12:06 AM	#240
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired? Next week they win.... All RG III show. __________________ Just win.

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