Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[SouperMeister]

Being realistic, this franchise is at least two full offseasons away from building a winner. The trade for RG3 was absolutely the key move to give fans a foundation of hope, but there are still a ton of other holes to fill. IMO, the last thing this franchise needs is another head coaching change. I would prefer to limit Shanny's power on the personnel side, and bring in a GM that has a real say during the offseason.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Being realistic, this franchise is at least two full offseasons away from building a winner. The trade for RG3 was absolutely the key move to give fans a foundation of hope, but there are still a ton of other holes to fill. IMO, the last thing this franchise needs is another head coaching change. I would prefer to limit Shanny's power on the personnel side, and bring in a GM that has a real say during the offseason.

With Mike coaching or in the FO this franchise will never produce a competitive team. In fact, I don't think Mike will ever have a winning season as HC again.

We are arguably the worst coached team in pro football. It's so sad and disappointing to see the talent we have go to waste week in week out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Goat

With Mike coaching or in the FO this franchise will never produce a competitive team. In fact, I don't think Mike will ever have a winning season as HC again.

We are arguably the worst coached team in pro football. It's so sad and disappointing to see the talent we have go to waste week in week out.

Are you watching the same team I am? What talent?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Are you watching the same team I am? What talent?

If you truly believe this team to have no talent, it's a bigger indictment of the regime than I make. Do you realize this?

Where we lack talent offensively is at RT. The sputtering offense is a direct result of really, really poor coaching. We are totally predictable at this point. The other big issue is whether our pass catchers continue to trust the Shanahans. Mike/Kyle's inability or refusal to spread the field and create space for our pass-catchers, thereby constantly putting them in the position to get destroyed at the point of the catch, is the most bizarre thing I've seen for a long time in pro football. It's weirder than the Tebow nonsense, but because it only involves a couple coaches nobody takes serious there just isn't a lot of attention given.

Defensively, this group as it stands today could be middle of the pack. Not great, certainly not elite. But middle of the pack. Poor scheme (the 3-4), poor play-calling and really poor adjustments are the difference.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Goat

If you truly believe this team to have no talent, it's a bigger indictment of the regime than I make. Do you realize this?

Where we lack talent offensively is at RT. The sputtering offense is a direct result of really, really poor coaching. We are totally predictable at this point. The other big issue is whether our pass catchers continue to trust the Shanahans. Mike/Kyle's inability or refusal to spread the field and create space for our pass-catchers, thereby constantly putting them in the position to get destroyed at the point of the catch, is the most bizarre thing I've seen for a long time in pro football. It's weirder than the Tebow nonsense, but because it only involves a couple coaches nobody takes serious there just isn't a lot of attention given.

Defensively, this group as it stands today could be middle of the pack. Not great, certainly not elite. But middle of the pack. Poor scheme (the 3-4), poor play-calling and really poor adjustments are the difference.

Goat we lack talent in several areas...RT, WR, D-line, LB, and the entire secondary...oh yeah, the coaching sucks. This is 4-6 win talent. Name any of our players that are top 5 at their position? Maybe Trent Williams and that's probably it.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Goat we lack talent in several areas...RT, WR, D-line, LB, and the entire secondary...oh yeah, the coaching sucks. This is 4-6 win talent. Name any of our players that are top 5 at their position? Maybe Trent Williams and that's probably it.

Top 5 at their position:

Offense
- RG3
- Morris
- Trent Williams
- Montgomery and or Chester, who's been almost totally solid this season
- Moss as a slot WR

Defense (current scheme)
- London (he needs some scheme help in that he shouldn't ever be covering 1 on 1 on the edges, but London is still a monster in middle run stopper and actually has great ball skills as a zone cover guy in the middle)
- Kerrigan
- Bowen

Defense as it should be, in a 4-3 scheme, would add another top 5 in that Cofield will make an excellent d tackle.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Top 5 at their position:

Offense
- RG3
- Morris
- Trent Williams
- Montgomery and or Chester, who's been almost totally solid this season
- Moss as a slot WR

Defense (current scheme)
- London (he needs some scheme help in that he shouldn't ever be covering 1 on 1 on the edges, but London is still a monster in middle run stopper and actually has great ball skills as a zone cover guy in the middle)
- Kerrigan
- Bowen

Defense as it should be, in a 4-3 scheme, would add another top 5 in that Cofield will make an excellent d tackle.

:yeahright

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by The Goat

With Mike coaching or in the FO this franchise will never produce a competitive team. In fact, I don't think Mike will ever have a winning season as HC again.

We are arguably the worst coached team in pro football. It's so sad and disappointing to see the talent we have go to waste week in week out.

Agree 100%. Shanny and the whole pathetic crew are gone after the season.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Agree 100%. Shanny and the whole pathetic crew are gone after the season.

Wow, never figured you for a "Fire the whole damn lot of em" type of guy. Welcome to the club!!!!!!