Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Swarley

People go on and one about the Packers like that's something to expect from every injured team. What the Packers did in their SB season was pretty amazing and it'll probably not happen for some time. That's like saying that the Ravens won with Trent Dilfer, therefore every other team is grossly overstating the need for a big time QB.


The Packers SB winning team, like the Ravens with Dilfer are the exception, not the rule.

The Packers were an extreme case that won the SB, and Giants to a lesser extent, but you miss the point entirely. We're not talking about winning the SB here. We're talking about just becomeing a competitive team, and there are myriad teams over the last several years who lost talent due to injury and stayed competitive. NE lost Brady for an entire season and still won 11 games (or was it 13, can't remember for sure). That's almost as amazing as what the Pack and Giants accomplished, because losing your franchise QB is huge.

The "injury ruined our season" excuse holds no water, as there are too many cases that prove otherwise.

[Bucket]

Who asked that question at the end of the press conference?

He's an idiot lol.. Mike never said "We are going to play young guys" Media is so blood thirsty sometimes.

[Swarley]

The injuries did not ruin our season, the injuries coupled with every other factor have ruined our season. As a matter of fact I don't know if our season has even been ruined. I expected a roller coaster season. Also It's much easier for an established team like the Patriots to get over injuries. When you're a young team that is trying to take it's first big step as a team, injuries are a killer.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The Packers were an extreme case that won the SB, and Giants to a lesser extent, but you miss the point entirely. We're not talking about winning the SB here. We're talking about just becomeing a competitive team, and there are myriad teams over the last several years who lost talent due to injury and stayed competitive. NE lost Brady for an entire season and still won 11 games (or was it 13, can't remember for sure). That's almost as amazing as what the Pack and Giants accomplished, because losing your franchise QB is huge.

The "injury ruined our season" excuse holds no water, as there are too many cases that prove otherwise.

11-5.
I dont remember any of us growing group of "doubters" ever once even mentioning the words super bowl, yet it is always thrown in our faces. I just want to be relevant when it gets cold outside...............

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Who asked that question at the end of the press conference?

He's an idiot lol.. Mike never said "We are going to play young guys" Media is so blood thirsty sometimes.

completely - this is one case where I have been defending Shanny. All he was saying was - "now were going to see who fights and who doesnt" - I never once read anything else into that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Swarley

The injuries did not ruin our season, the injuries coupled with every other factor have ruined our season. As a matter of fact I don't know if our season has even been ruined. I expected a roller coaster season. Also It's much easier for an established team like the Patriots to get over injuries. When you're a young team that is trying to take it's first big step as a team, injuries are a killer.

Stop making so much sense.

[los panda]

ten and six?

[SolidSnake84]

7 in a row or we dont go?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Swarley

The injuries did not ruin our season, the injuries coupled with every other factor have ruined our season. As a matter of fact I don't know if our season has even been ruined. I expected a roller coaster season. Also It's much easier for an established team like the Patriots to get over injuries. When you're a young team that is trying to take it's first big step as a team, injuries are a killer.

Just curious what you mean by " every other factor" exactly?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

7 in a row or we dont go?

Haha. I remember 5 in a row or we dont go. My first ever skins home game was the dismantling of Dallas and Parcells when Cooley went off!

[GTripp0012]

I didn't really have a problem with what Shanahan said. I thought it was self-serving, sure (it usually is), but I didn't have a problem with him saying it.

[jdc65]

I do believe that Shanahan should be given the full year, but I also believe the handwriting is on the wall. Have to let the year play out, and if the team can manage 7 wins or more, then he should return. Having said that, I don't see this team getting to 7, and Snyder would be able to fire Shanny with minimal backlash.

This team is all about Griffin now, and his growth and satisfaction with the organization is of paramount importance going forward. Snyder is going to sit down with Robert in a fancy restaurant somewhere late in the season, and some frank discussions will take place. Like it or not, that's just how it is, and I am ok with it.

I don't believe that Mike would ever relinquish front office control at this point in his life, and I don't think he can win with total decision making authority. Snyder will then be able to make the move, and justify it.

[CultBrennan59]

Mike Shanahans defense from 95-08:

95: 15th
96: 4th (Made playoffs)
97: 5th (won super bowl)
98: 11th(won super bowl)
99: 7th
00: 24th (made playoffs)
01: 8th
02: 6th
03: 4th (Made playoffs)
04: 4th (made playoffs)
05: 15th (made playoffs)
06: 14th
07: 19th
08: 29th

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by jdc65

Having said that, I don't see this team getting to 7, and Snyder would be able to fire Shanny with minimal backlash.

This team is all about Griffin now, and his growth and satisfaction with the organization is of paramount importance going forward. Snyder is going to sit down with Robert in a fancy restaurant somewhere late in the season, and some frank discussions will take place.

If you find out where exactly let me, GTripp, Mechanix, Goat, Alvin Walton, Slingin Sammy, and Okie know where so we can get a table near by and talk really loud.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If you find out where exactly let me, GTripp, Mechanix, Goat, Alvin Walton, Slingin Sammy, and Okie know where so we can get a table near by and talk really loud.

Yeah, that's exactly what this organization needs.. Listen to you crazies again. Reason why this team is in the boat it is now is because you were the poison that would pay so much for tickets to see Albert Haynesworth and Jason Taylor in Redskin Uniforms.