Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

HTTR 24-7 - Defensive Dysfunction: How Mike Shanahan Can Fix His Achillies Heel

Makes you feel bad for Haslett in a way.




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How in the **** does Slowik still have a job? Why is that dipshit on this team? He failed with that guy in Denver, did he think anything was going to change? Why is he coaching a position he's never coached before? This is the kind if shit I put on Shanahan. C'mon man!!

It's pathetic but what a lot of us have been saying for a long time. Mike needs to pick a DC and then basically get out of the way.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

It's pathetic but what a lot of us have been saying for a long time. Mike needs to pick a DC and then basically get out of the way.

Yeah, ShanahaN shows up 2 years ago.. Gives the DC his way and doesn't have a say.Defense still fails badly, and everyone is saying..

WHAT'S WRONG WITH SHANAHAN? WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE SAY ON WHO IS ON HIS DEFENSE? WAH BLAH BLAH WAH WAH.

I'm going to be on fire today guys.. Getting pumped for the game, so ill take it out on the special ones here.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Yeah, ShanahaN shows up 2 years ago.. Gives the DC his way and doesn't have a say.Defense still fails badly, and everyone is saying..

WHAT'S WRONG WITH SHANAHAN? WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE SAY ON WHO IS ON HIS DEFENSE? WAH BLAH BLAH WAH WAH.

I'm going to be on fire today guys.. Getting pumped for the game, so ill take it out on the special ones here.

Gotta disagree on this, HC might have final say, but in functional units the DC's opinions and desire probably get a whole lot of pull. Doesn't sound like this is the case, and you can see on the field that the team isn't functioning so since Shanahan put his people in, it's on him.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Gotta disagree on this, HC might have final say, but in functional units the DC's opinions and desire probably get a whole lot of pull. Doesn't sound like this is the case, and you can see on the field that the team isn't functioning so since Shanahan put his people in, it's on him.

Oh I agree actually.. I was just commenting on what half the community would be saying if the roles were reversed.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Yeah, ShanahaN shows up 2 years ago.. Gives the DC his way and doesn't have a say.Defense still fails badly, and everyone is saying..

WHAT'S WRONG WITH SHANAHAN? WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE SAY ON WHO IS ON HIS DEFENSE? WAH BLAH BLAH WAH WAH.

I'm going to be on fire today guys.. Getting pumped for the game, so ill take it out on the special ones here.

Yeah he's done a wonderful
Job so far. Putting position coaches coaching positions they've never coached before..not allowing the DC to have any imput on who his assistants are
Bring it on man. You're assuming if he got out of the way the defense would fail. Guess what genius? The defense IS failing and couldn't be a whole hell of a lot worse.
If you can't see a problem with anything Shanahan does maybe you'd be better off just sitting back and reading instead of posting a bunch of blind BS. On fire? If ignorance is fire you're blazing right now.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Yeah he's done a wonderful
Job so far. Putting position coaches coaching positions they've never coached before..not allowing the DC to have any imput on who his assistants are
Bring it on man. You're assuming if he got out of the way the defense would fail. Guess what genius? The defense IS failing and couldn't be a whole hell of a lot worse.
If you can't see a problem with anything Shanahan does maybe you'd be better off just sitting back and reading instead of posting a bunch of blind BS. On fire? If ignorance is fire you're blazing right now.

Knockout blow.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Yeah he's done a wonderful
Job so far. Putting position coaches coaching positions they've never coached before..not allowing the DC to have any imput on who his assistants are
Bring it on man. You're assuming if he got out of the way the defense would fail. Guess what genius? The defense IS failing and couldn't be a whole hell of a lot worse.
If you can't see a problem with anything Shanahan does maybe you'd be better off just sitting back and reading instead of posting a bunch of blind BS. On fire? If ignorance is fire you're blazing right now.

Obviously you missed the whole point of my post, and decided to do just a bunch of contradiction.

I never said he wasn't failing.. I actually said the exact opposite 3 pages ago. He is failing at the moment, but he also said it would take 5 years, and not 2.5 years like the current time frame.

My point of post was it wouldn't of mattered which way Shanahan went with controlling his team. People in Redskins Nation like (insert your name here) would be bitching right now if it was still the present situation.

Hopefully I made it more clear to you and helped your reading comprehension.

Oh, and G-Tripp... D Hall is our best DB.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Obviously you missed the whole point of my post, and decided to do just a bunch of contradiction.

I never said he wasn't failing.. I actually said the exact opposite 3 pages ago. He is failing at the moment, but he also said it would take 5 years, and not 2.5 years like the current time frame.

My point of post was it wouldn't of mattered which wayj Shanahan went with controlling his team. People in Redskins Nation like (insert your name here) would be bitching right now if it was still the present situation.

Hopefully I made it more clear to you and helped your reading comprehension.

Oh, and G-Tripp... D Hall is our best DB.

Actually I didn't see any point to your post whatsoever other than to take what I said to some moronic extreme and point out the fact that if Shanahan had less imput in the defensive personell and put more trust in the DC he chose AND the defense still sucked as bad as they do people would still be upset. Gosh do you think? Shanahan's strong suit is neither defense nor picking personell for it. Is that too hard for you to comprehend? The best I can tell is you think Lombardi is wrong either because he has no idea what he's talking about or because I agree with him. So which is it? And yes he did say it would take 5 years to turn this thing around. He also said he'd stake his reputation on John Beck. He also said he expected us to have a top 10 possibly 5 defense. He also said he expected our defense to be our strength and to keep us close in games. He also thought Donovan McNabb would help this team and was worth a 3rd round draft pick. Whoopty effing do. So pretty much to sum it up you're saying no matter who is in charge if our defense sucked donkey as it does now..people would still be upset..and Shanahan being wrong on more than one occasion said it would take 5 years to turn this thing around? Wow. You've obviously put a lot of thought into this. Next time you feel like messing with certain "Special" people on this board you might think of all the implications of the word "Special" and perhaps just post a note to yourself. Did you even bother to read any of the excerpts by Lombardi? I doubt it. There is some criticism of Shanahan and the way he's done some things and needs to take some responsibility for it. You might want to stay away from that. It kind of requires an open mind.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Actually I didn't see any point to your post whatsoever other than to take what I said to some moronic extreme and point out the fact that if Shanahan had less imput in the defensive personell and put more trust in the DC he chose AND the defense still sucked as bad as they do people would still be upset. Gosh do you think? Shanahan's strong suit is neither defense nor picking personell for it. Is that too hard for you to comprehend? The best I can tell is you think Lombardi is wrong either because he has no idea what he's talking about or because I agree with him. So which is it? And yes he did say it would take 5 years to turn this thing around. He also said he'd stake his reputation on John Beck. He also said he expected us to have a top 10 possibly 5 defense. He also said he expected our defense to be our strength and to keep us close in games. He also thought Donovan McNabb would help this team and was worth a 3rd round draft pick. Whoopty effing do. So pretty much to sum it up you're saying no matter who is in charge if our defense sucked donkey as it does now..people would still be upset..and Shanahan being wrong on more than one occasion said it would take 5 years to turn this thing around? Wow. You've obviously put a lot of thought into this. Next time you feel like messing with certain "Special" people on this board you might think of all the implications of the word "Special" and perhaps just post a note to yourself. Did you even bother to read any of the excerpts by Lombardi? I doubt it. There is some criticism of Shanahan and the way he's done some things and needs to take some responsibility for it. You might want to stay away from that. It kind of requires an open mind.

Spoken like most Redskin Fans. I didn't read anything after this.. I understand.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Spoken like most Redskin Fans. I didn't read anything after this.. I understand.

Not fully reading things and proclaiming to understand is more than likely part of the problem.