Rifts between Shanahan and Snyder?

Hog1 · 01-11-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think most fans are intelligent enough to realize that Shanahan needs more than one year. But after seeing this guy for a year he just seems like a total dick to work for and has isses with communication.

I don't get that from the players at all. And Mark Schlereth has remarked....many times of the respect and admiration he has for Shanny. How much fun he had playing for him.
I think it must be more of a case of that intuitive....."fan" intelligence channeling evil thoughts in the Shannahan camp?

skinsfan69 · 01-11-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

I don't get that from the players at all. And Mark Schlereth has remarked....many times of the respect and admiration he has for Shanny. How much fun he had playing for him.
I think it must be more of a case of that intuitive....."fan" intelligence channeling evil thoughts in the Shannahan camp?

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

MTK · 01-11-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

Probably more like for every 100 Schlereth's, there's a Plummer.

SmootSmack · 01-11-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

Letting his son run the offense...as if is his son was a 3rd grade social studies teacher who Mike Shanahan just plucked out of class one day to run the offense

Dirtbag59 · 01-11-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Letting his son run the offense...as if is his son was a 3rd grade social studies teacher who Mike Shanahan just plucked out of class one day to run the offense

Or a bingo caller.

Hog1 · 01-11-2011, 03:14 PM

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Or a bingo caller.

Well...in the interest of accuracy, I believe our Offense did improve after the Bingo Caller's arrival?
He was a natural at sending in the play!
B-32, A-15......

Hog1 · 01-11-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well

skinsfan69 · 01-11-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

skinsguy · 01-11-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

Well that doesn't make any sense at all. I would not want a coach that doesn't think his scheme is better for the team.

Hog1 · 01-11-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

He's the coach.
Whether the fan base, media, or ALMOST anybody else agree's or not...........THAT is what he gets paid to do. Do that Coaching shit...make coaching decisions. Right or wrong....popular or un-popular. At some point in time his boss (and hopefully he has more patience and foresight than the idiotic fan base) will decide if he has been successful enough and won enough games to continue.....

SmootSmack · 01-11-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

He's the coach.
Whether the fan base, media, or ALMOST anybody else agree's or not...........THAT is what he gets paid to do. Do that Coaching shit...make coaching decisions. Right or wrong....popular or un-popular. At some point in time his boss (and hopefully he has more patience and foresight than the idiotic fan base) will decide if he has been successful enough and won enough games to continue.....

Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"

Ruhskins · 01-11-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"

Giantone · 01-12-2011, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"

lol.............oh to be a fly on the wall in that room.

Dirtbag59 · 01-12-2011, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"

I always pictured Smootsmack as the Jeff Skilling of the Warpath while Matty is more along the lines of a Kenneth Lay.

CRedskinsRule · 01-12-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"

Was this before or after the voluntary mod days. They make a LOT more sense now.

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