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Old 01-11-2011, 12:05 PM   #1
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Re: Rifts between Shanahan and Snyder?

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Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.
I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:38 PM   #2
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I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well
It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.
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Old 01-11-2011, 05:51 PM   #3
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It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.
Well that doesn't make any sense at all. I would not want a coach that doesn't think his scheme is better for the team.
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:23 PM   #4
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It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.
He's the coach.
Whether the fan base, media, or ALMOST anybody else agree's or not...........THAT is what he gets paid to do. Do that Coaching shit...make coaching decisions. Right or wrong....popular or un-popular. At some point in time his boss (and hopefully he has more patience and foresight than the idiotic fan base) will decide if he has been successful enough and won enough games to continue.....
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He's the coach.
Whether the fan base, media, or ALMOST anybody else agree's or not...........THAT is what he gets paid to do. Do that Coaching shit...make coaching decisions. Right or wrong....popular or un-popular. At some point in time his boss (and hopefully he has more patience and foresight than the idiotic fan base) will decide if he has been successful enough and won enough games to continue.....
Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"
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Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:01 AM   #7
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Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"

lol.............oh to be a fly on the wall in that room.
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Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"
I always pictured Smootsmack as the Jeff Skilling of the Warpath while Matty is more along the lines of a Kenneth Lay.
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I always pictured Smootsmack as the Jeff Skilling of the Warpath while Matty is more along the lines of a Kenneth Lay.
Wait till Matty finds out you think he's dead

(I actually did get that review)
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Wait till Matty finds out you think he's dead

(I actually did get that review)
Fine, if Matty wants he can be Lou Pai, but then the whole parallel gets thrown out of whack.
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Last year my boss gave me a performance review and he said "SmootSmack, you're a great team player. You value everyone's opinions, you listen to their suggestions, and you work to make sure everyone is satisfied...but you're the leader of your team. Sometimes you need to just take charge and say 'this is my idea, and this is how I want it done' If it fails, it fails and you move on but you're going to be held accountable either way so take charge from the start."

And I said "Thanks Matty"
Was this before or after the voluntary mod days. They make a LOT more sense now.
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It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.
I've heard there is two ways of thinking;

1- is the team slowly transitions to whatever scheme the HC is looking to run, which might work or it might not.

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2- go all in and hope it works out. This method usually brings the learning curve across better and faster. I'm guessing this was the train of thought and with the thought AH would return and dominate the middle of the defense. Instead we got a disgruntled player acting like a little leager throwing a tantrum and refusing to participate. I'm also hedging a bet that they thought Kemo would be better then he was. But at this point they were already all in.

Haslett said to the media it took the Steelers about 3 yrs to be dominant after switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4. Next year the defense will be better with a few key pick ups and then yr 3 ..... SB. Plus don't think for a moment Haslett didn't tell MS this very thing. Coaches are meticulous so I'm sure they talked about it and decided the path they took.
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